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vass_jns
Can i avoid the israel stamp in my passport on the border?
After Israel i would like to travel islamic countries, and they will not "happy", if i have the israle stamp in my pass.
Is it nessesery on the border, or i can do something?

please help!
wakingdream
I have read a number of times that you should ask for your stamp on a separate piece of paper. Cut one out and insert it into your passport before you cross the border. The Israeli border officials will accommodate b/c they understand that their stamp causes many travel issues for people.

"Not Happy" is for sure. You'll likely be refused entry in certain countries.

Check out the forum on Lightstalkers, there's some good info from people's previous experiences. Read all the way through.

The Entry-Exit Stamp Game

There's some info if you want to read about it yourself.

Take care smile.gif
laorfamily
It shouldn't be an issue, just make sure to ask for it.
vass_jns
I will try it!
And in february i will share my result!
Thanx!
wakingdream
Awesome! I'm sure it'll all work out smile.gif

Have a really great time!
gazton99
QUOTE(vass_jns @ Jan 16 2008, 08:36 AM) *

Can i avoid the israel stamp in my passport on the border?
After Israel i would like to travel islamic countries, and they will not "happy", if i have the israle stamp in my pass.
Is it nessesery on the border, or i can do something?

please help!


of course ! You have to say to the plice man of the passeport that you don't want any stamp on the passeport, and he will not do anything. Don't say him that you want to go in islamic country after that, just say that you don't want any stamp on you passport
skylab
QUOTE(tlh908 @ Oct 3 2008, 03:39 PM) *

QUOTE(vass_jns @ Jan 16 2008, 09:36 AM) *

Can i avoid the israel stamp in my passport on the border?
After Israel i would like to travel islamic countries, and they will not "happy", if i have the israle stamp in my pass.
Is it nessesery on the border, or i can do something?

please help!


Actually it depends on the Islamic country. Jordan and Egypt are open to tourist from Israel....


Yeah.
I've done a pretty good research on this. I have plans to go from Iseral to Egypt.
raniroo
Israel will stamp on a seperate piece of paper. However, if you have an exit or entry stamp from a land border crossing into or out of Israel you will be refused entry into many of the Islamic countries (Kuwait, UAE, Saudi, Oman, Syria etc).

Paul
Interesting.

Has anyone got a full list of the countries that won't accept you?

And does it work the other way? ie. Does Isreal not let you in if you have been to certain countries?

Also has anyone got the official reason why this is the case? Are they scared you will have Israel germs or?
stereobread
I'm not sure whether this is the right place or not to ask but what about that exit stamp? Assuming getting the Israelis not to stamp your passport isn't a problem you've still got the issue of the Jordanians right?

One of the options I've been considering for my next trip would take me through the Middle East, I was planning on heading from Istanbul to Cairo overland but I know the Egyptians would give me an entry stamp at the border that would restrict me from going to a number of other countries so I was thinking about just taking the ferry from Aqaba to somewhere in Egypt and maybe, if I can get assurances that the Jordanians won't give me any incriminating passport stamps, going to Jerusalem and back from Amman.

So how about it? If I went from Jordan to Israel then back to Jordan by the same border crossing would I be able to avoid all of the stamps or just the actual Israeli ones?
rbisset
I've just reversed the entire plan for my next big trip to include Israel. Going to be a logistical nightmare with the visas.
aopaq
QUOTE(stereobread @ Mar 31 2009, 07:00 PM) *

I'm not sure whether this is the right place or not to ask but what about that exit stamp? Assuming getting the Israelis not to stamp your passport isn't a problem you've still got the issue of the Jordanians right?

One of the options I've been considering for my next trip would take me through the Middle East, I was planning on heading from Istanbul to Cairo overland but I know the Egyptians would give me an entry stamp at the border that would restrict me from going to a number of other countries so I was thinking about just taking the ferry from Aqaba to somewhere in Egypt and maybe, if I can get assurances that the Jordanians won't give me any incriminating passport stamps, going to Jerusalem and back from Amman.

So how about it? If I went from Jordan to Israel then back to Jordan by the same border crossing would I be able to avoid all of the stamps or just the actual Israeli ones?

I am not sure why you are worried about the Egyptian or Jordanian passport stamps. As far as I know, that should have no effect with you gaining entry into Islamic countries such as Syria, Iran and Pakistan. It is the Israeli stamp that you need to avoid if you want to visit these countries.
Be aware that I have also heard that people were denied entry into Syria when it was obvious that they came from Egypt and travelled through Israel to Jordan even though their passports had no Israeli stamps!
rbisset
Travelling from Istanbul to Cairo won't really cause any problems. Jordan and Egypt both let you in if you have an Israeli stamp so there is no problem there. Syria and Lebanon won't let you in but if you are working south from Turkey then you'll have already been there.

It would mean you would need to arrange a new passport once you got home though, if you planned to go to other Islamic countries like Iran.

But you are right. If you planned to go north and travel through the same border between Jordan and Israel then you'd need both borders to stamp a separate piece of paper. That way it would look like you had never left Jordan.
stereobread

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Be aware that I have also heard that people were denied entry into Syria when it was obvious that they came from Egypt and travelled through Israel to Jordan even though their passports had no Israeli stamps!
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That's what I mean, even if I didn't have an actual Israeli entrance stamp the specific Jordanian or Egyptian exit/entry stamp indicating that I had left or entered the country via Israel would mean that I wouldn't be able to travel to Islamic countries. I know it wouldn't matter for this particular route but I'd still like to know if it's possible to get the Jordanians not to stamp my passport at the Allenby Bridge so that it would look like I'd never left Jordan.
aopaq
My understanding is that it can be a bit "hit a miss" with the Jordan stamps but I think explaining to the border guard your reason is the best you can do. I have also heard that requesting Israel not to stamp your passport is not 100% guaranteed. In both cases, it seems to rely partly on the particular day and border crossing guard you deal with.

Nothing ever seems to be certain with any visa-type situation for any country has been my experience.
huckabmm
QUOTE(Paul @ Oct 8 2008, 08:44 PM) *

Also has anyone got the official reason why this is the case? Are they scared you will have Israel germs or?


I'm not certain but it may be because these countries refuse to acknowledge Israeli sovereignty??? Maybe?
hajjabdullah
QUOTE(stereobread @ Mar 31 2009, 06:00 PM) *

I'm not sure whether this is the right place or not to ask but what about that exit stamp? Assuming getting the Israelis not to stamp your passport isn't a problem you've still got the issue of the Jordanians right?

One of the options I've been considering for my next trip would take me through the Middle East, I was planning on heading from Istanbul to Cairo overland but I know the Egyptians would give me an entry stamp at the border that would restrict me from going to a number of other countries so I was thinking about just taking the ferry from Aqaba to somewhere in Egypt and maybe, if I can get assurances that the Jordanians won't give me any incriminating passport stamps, going to Jerusalem and back from Amman.

So how about it? If I went from Jordan to Israel then back to Jordan by the same border crossing would I be able to avoid all of the stamps or just the actual Israeli ones?


The Jordanian stamp that says "Allenby Bridge" is a dead give away that you have not just come from Egypt! The Israeli stamp on a separate sheet of paper is thus, largely meaningless. Lots of people you think would mind do not seem to. I got into Saudi with no problems, they just wanted to see my Saudi visa and didnt care where else I had been.
stereobread
QUOTE(hajjabdullah @ Jun 1 2009, 10:01 PM) *

The Jordanian stamp that says "Allenby Bridge" is a dead give away that you have not just come from Egypt! The Israeli stamp on a separate sheet of paper is thus, largely meaningless. Lots of people you think would mind do not seem to. I got into Saudi with no problems, they just wanted to see my Saudi visa and didnt care where else I had been.


Yeah, that's what I meant. I was hoping there was some way to get the Jordanian stamp on a separate sheet of paper as well as the Israeli stamp. As you said having the Israeli stamp on a separate piece of paper is meaningless if you've got a Jordanian stamp that says it's from the Allenby Bridge border crossing. So if at all possible the best thing to do would be to enter Jordan from Syria getting a Jordanian entry stamp there, then get both the Jordanian and Israeli border guards to stamp a separate piece of paper to enter Israel, then do the same thing to get back into Jordan, then take the ferry from Aqaba to Nuweiba and get a Jordanian exit stamp there. That way it looks like you entered Jordan from Syria and exited to Egypt without going to Israel at all.

I don't know if this is possible or feasible but if it is that's how I would prefer to do it.
scottygirl
Hey,

What about traveling into Palestine (Bethlehem) and back? Is this more likely to get your passport stamped?

Cheers!
hajjabdullah
QUOTE(scottygirl @ Jul 8 2009, 05:25 AM) *

Hey,

What about traveling into Palestine (Bethlehem) and back? Is this more likely to get your passport stamped?

Cheers!


You need an Israeli visa to get into the country, including the occupied territories. This can be on a separate piece of paper that you need to show the guards at the border to cross from Palestine into Israel. You can go the other way with no passport check as the PA lets anyone in. If you are going to Syria, you will have to lie on your visa application however, and this I would be careful of. Go there first if you can. Bon Voyage, and you will love the people in Palestine. I'm going again next week.
sqsinha
For the record, the Israeli authorities stamped my passport after harassing me for 2 hours. I asked them not to stamp it and they said they wouldn't but they went ahead and did it.

So don't count on them being so nice, that's all ... though I have heard they are supposed to oblige, as well.
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