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[mmbcross]

Goodness, you lucky devils. I haven't seen free alcohol on a plane for ages. On the other hand, I have never been charged for water, tea or coffee.

Not that I'm a airline lover, but the security checks in the USA are done by a government agency, not by the airlines or the airport. As usual, blame the government. How they are capable of running a country continues to amaze me. On the other hand, they are not running this one particularly well.

Also we can't blame the airlines for the cost of fuel. It's about time we started looking for alternatives. We should have done this long ago.

[cheli]

I've become a big fan of taking an empty bottle through security then filling it up on the bubblers or toilet taps on the other side before hopping on the plane. Haven't had a problem with this so far, although I might not do it in Asia given I don't touch the tap water there, but then buying a bottle wouldn't be so exxy either.

Never had a problem getting water from an airline, although I'd complain to high hell if they charged me for water. As far as I'm concerned, it should be like restaurants - tap water (or the equivalent on a plane, given you're stuck in one spot) should be free, especially for health reasons. And I have no problems with following hosts around until they give me a cup, in the nicest possible way

I've near cried to have to empty out said water bottle before security (into rubbish bins of all places!) if I haven't been able to drain it before i arrive. Such a freeking waste. It might be unlimited to you, wakingdream, but as an Australian I'm used to the concept of water restrictions...

[starlagurl]

Rachel, you are the most practical woman that I know... why didn't I think of that?! An EMPTY bottle GAH!

Yeah, dumping water also hurts my heart, even though it seems unlimited in Canada.

[cheli]

Rachel, you are the most practical woman that I know... why didn't I think of that?! An EMPTY bottle GAH!

Nah, just incredibly tight. Why pay for water when I have a bottle right here, and there's a bubbler just on the other side of the barrier?

[inasia2008]

Goodness, you lucky devils. I haven't seen free alcohol on a plane for ages. On the other hand, I have never been charged for water, tea or coffee.

Not that I'm a airline lover, but the security checks in the USA are done by a government agency, not by the airlines or the airport. As usual, blame the government. How they are capable of running a country continues to amaze me. On the other hand, they are not running this one particularly well.

Also we can't blame the airlines for the cost of fuel. It's about time we started looking for alternatives. We should have done this long ago.

Well the thing is that they obviously are not capable of running a country, I have never seen the United States looking so glum, its pretty disheartening, even for a non-American! It's just one thing after another for them right now... but then gas prices, we pay around $10 a gallon un the UK! Another thing I saw on TV (see we do get some good info from there), was a company called LS( whose scientists have discovered that they can harvest bugs (more specifically bacteria) from waste sites/composte heaps etc. and basically farm them like a real farmer would do, feed them stuff like lemongrass (why lemongrass I don't know, before anyone asks) and what do they poop out the other end - believe it or not CRUDE OIL! Now how about that! And they also reckon by 3 years they could farm enough to make this beneficial to the public! I mean it makes sense, its waste for heavens sake, its everywhere!

[wakingdream]

It might be unlimited to you, wakingdream, but as an Australian I'm used to the concept of water restrictions...

Don't get me started

Actually, it's pretty much "unlimited" to most people in Canada, with the exception of some water restrictions and that's mostly for people who really feel they need to water their lawns or wash their driveways b/c that's very important.

I bet most people haven't got a clue how much water they use, or, frankly, even care. I'm sure you have heard of, and with common sense, know about the impending water crisis. I'm all for saving water, restricting my use, knowing how I use water (if you eat meat your water usage skyrockets and you probably don't even know it just as one example)...etc, etc. Water restrictions. We could really use those here and it's waaaay passed due if you ask me. How about people who have zero access to clean drinking water? Now there's something to worry about. I don't think we "unlimited" water users think much about what's happening to our water supply which is very, very dangerous and sad.

And btw, taking an empty water bottle along is a great idea.

[Paul]

[quote name='cheli' date='Jun 19 2008, 08:33 AM' post='60513']
"I've become a big fan of taking an empty bottle through security then filling it up on the bubblers or toilet taps on the other side before hopping on the plane. Haven't had a problem with this so far, although I might not do it in Asia given I don't touch the tap water there, but then buying a bottle wouldn't be so exxy either."



Cheli - you are a genius. I am going to apply for you to get the Nobel prize.

In many airports that I frequent (ones in South East Asia) - although you may not be able to buy bottled water after the security check (and even if you could it would be very expensive) there are often drinking fountains. The water in them is fine for drinking. Don't worry.

Even if there are no water fountains, you can get onto the plane with your empty bottle and fill it up on the plane or tell the stewardess to do it for you.

NOTE: I apologise to the stewardesses in the short term - if this idea catches on, you guys will have much more work and your time will be taken up filling up bottles. But hopefully you will pass this information on to the airlines who SHOULD be giving the customers bottled water waiting for them at their seats.

See ya

[Paul]

Jo - the bug thing - that is really interesting. Maybe I can make my own at home.

What a shame for all those countries including this one, that are busy spraying pesticides everywhere. No oil for them.

Almost makes you believe in karma, hey?

[mmbcross]

Remember the UK gallon is a bit bigger than the US gallon, but US$ 10.00 is a bit steep. No wonder there aren't many SUVs in England. They probably wouldn't fit in the parking spaces either.

Bravo. Seconded. Nobel Preize for Cheli.

Lemongrass is awfully expensive. The main constituent of lemongrass oil is citral, which makes up around 80% of the total. It smells divine and they use it for aromatherapy in spas. So now they are going to feed it to bugs who will produce crude oil? Well I never!

We have water restrictions in South Florida. It is really frustrating to see how people abuse it watering their lawns and just wasting it in general. We have a rain barrel project going in our town, but it's awfully hard to convince people.

On the other hand, water is the most abundant molecule on Earth's surface, composing of about 70% of the Earth's surface as liquid and solid state in addition to being found in the atmosphere as a vapor. Unlike oil, the amount of water we have today is exactly the same as we had millions of years ago, and will still be the same millions of years hence. It has nowhere to go. Now availability of water is an entirely different matter.

[Paul]

What is the water barrel project?


Gallons - that measurement doesn't exist any more. Like miles, inchs, ounces, etc. Please ask your countries to progress into the modern era.


Lemongrass isn't so expensive here. I have some growing in my yard actually. (not yard as in the old fashioned measurement). Ooops I accidentally chopped some of it out as I thought it was a weed.


Totally correct about water - but for all you beginners - please note where that water is, it's accessibility and ability to be utilised is a crucial factor and it is changing. We are quickly running out of it in the areas we "need" and this has potential to cause very serious problems to humans.


See ya

[cheli]

You can't all be serious. Surely I'm not the first person to have thought of bringing an empty bottle through!

[quote name='wakingdream' date='Jun 19 2008, 09:16 PM' post='60683']
[quote]Don't get me started [/quote]

Yeah, I thought the original comment was out of character for you I tried a challenge last year called the 40L famine - you tried to keep all your water usage to 40L for a 48 hour duration. I only just managed it, and it was incredibly hard! And no, I was not smelly or thirsty afterwards

[mmbcross]

We are installing rain barrels at residences, just like in the olden days. It collects rainwater from the roof and can be used for watering the garden without using city tap water.

True, gallons are old history. Here are the countries that still use gallons to measure fuel:
The US liquid gallon continues to be used as a unit of measure for fuel in Belize, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Grenada, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Myanmar (Burma), Nicaragua, Panama, Peru, Puerto Rico, Sierra Leone, and the United States.

The Imperial gallon is still used in Antigua and Barbuda, Guyana, and the United Arab Emirates.

You are right, lemongrass is almost a weed. We have it in our garden too, and the dog eats it as a laxative. The expensive stuff is the processed lemongrass scent they use in spas.

Correct. There is actually no lack of water in the world, it's just that it's not all in the right place at the right time.

[Paul]

Cheli - you are a genius and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


I imagine the idea will soon be outlawed as terrorists could use the bottles to steal air from the "Free World". But for now, it is a great plan.

[starlagurl]

Bahhhhhhhahahaha....terrorists love "liberty air" they can't get enough of it.

Martin, I WISH we had a rain barrel or composter at my building. Literally, all the beautiful rain water that comes off the roof, goes straight into a little flower bed outside my window and DROWNS everything. They could put a rain barrel under there and use it to irrigate the rest of the flower beds but NO they won't do it.

I recommended both a composter AND a rain barrel to my condo corporation, and they said that kids would come and knock them over.... What a lame-o excuse. With that, I resigned as "volunteer gardener".

[mmbcross]

We live in fear these days. Fear of terrorists and lawyers. I don't know which are worse. Both of they are determined to take away our liberty.

[starlagurl]

And teenagers...watch out for those ones, they might be the worst.

[inasia2008]

I am thinking lemongrass is another one of those little things the markets can advertise to people "not so in the know" shall we say as some amazingly luxurious herb from Asia that has wondrous effects on the skin and body and charge them a fortune for it in the spas etc.
I reckon we could put sperm in a jar mixed with nivea and sell it for $150 a jar like the amazing creme d'mer! I mean isn't sperm meant to be a good skin conditioner?

[mmbcross]

Does the sperm have to be dead or alive?

[inasia2008]

Well it only lives for about 10 seconds, if that! Once they leave their little hidey hole!!!

[starlagurl]

Ohhhhhhhhhh my goodness....

They wouldn't put sperm in cream, it's too expensive...

Profit margins aren't high enough...