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| starlagurl |
Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM
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This kind of goes with that notorious post on boycotting countries.... Overseas arrivals in the U.S. have declined 11 per cent this decade, from 26 million in 2000 to 23 million in 2007. That's all happening while the travel industry as a whole grows 6 per cent per year! From declining travel visas, to only-English signs in abundance, it seems that visiting the states is getting more and more difficult. Especially for people who are not from the list of 29 countries whose residents can visit the US without a visa. For some perspective, Canada's list is 50 countries long. In theory, it's easier for a Mexican resident to visit Europe, than it is for him/her to visit the US. It's completely astounding! The declining dollar is supposed to bring more tourism, and I wonder if it really will. Especially with an attitude like this. What do you think? Are Americans too mean for international tourism? Even though it's a beautiful country, is the red tape and crass attitude getting in the way?
When you hear all that bad news about the American economy, it seems that tourism should be something they should be embracing. I think it's time to change some tourism policies, no?Link to the World Hum article that inspired me.
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| zijuzijazijana |
Dec 23 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(starlagurl @ Apr 8 2008, 09:58 AM)  This kind of goes with that notorious post on boycotting countries.... Overseas arrivals in the U.S. have declined 11 per cent this decade, from 26 million in 2000 to 23 million in 2007. That's all happening while the travel industry as a whole grows 6 per cent per year! From declining travel visas, to only-English signs in abundance, it seems that visiting the states is getting more and more difficult. Especially for people who are not from the list of 29 countries whose residents can visit the US without a visa. For some perspective, Canada's list is 50 countries long. In theory, it's easier for a Mexican resident to visit Europe, than it is for him/her to visit the US. It's completely astounding! The declining dollar is supposed to bring more tourism, and I wonder if it really will. Especially with an attitude like this. What do you think? Are Americans too mean for international tourism? Even though it's a beautiful country, is the red tape and crass attitude getting in the way?
When you hear all that bad news about the American economy, it seems that tourism should be something they should be embracing. I think it's time to change some tourism policies, no?Link to the World Hum article that inspired me.Hi, There is a lot of reasons for American Tourism to decline.It's very easy to come up with a few of them just reading blogs of people who are travelers.Generally speaking America became less save for the money .There is a lot of advertising about cheap prices but they are only cheap to Americans.I myself don't like to pick cheap deals cause they are not worth it,if I don't have enough money to go to the place I want to go and have fun there I simply don't go.I travel cheap only in emergency cases. The American attitude is another thing but it all depends where and what the situation is all about.Don't talk about American attitude to me cause I have lived through hell and I didn't harm no one yet.I'm an American citizen who lives in Poland now and every idiot here wants to make me humble for no appearent reason.Who gives them permission and why to assault Americans?As I have mentioned in my other comment I almost lost my life just extending my passport.Anyone who is from USA and travels outside the country needs to realize that he or she is in danger,just owning American Passport is dangerous.Why to go then?Unless someone needs to have a trill and wants danger in life.There is a lot of travel agencies at fault,they will not tell the truth and that's how it starts. Money as always is the subject.America is not cheap,so why to make it a cheap deal for someone who will come over and will have to go right back and will cause a lot of trouble? Than there is this denial some people live in,they don't want to faze the fact that they can't afford American trip,they need to be informed about all the costs and if it's necessary someone needs to stop them from going.There is so many cheap places to go in the world and they could be beautiful but question is who wants to go there?Americans are being hated across the world for the way they are.I certainly will not change my attitute for no one,I'm free,I'm American.You don't like it take a hike. Aha, about the tourism in America it's not as bad as you thing but for the rest of the world it is.
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| skylab |
Dec 24 2008, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(starlagurl @ Dec 24 2008, 08:36 AM)  QUOTE(zijuzijazijana @ Dec 23 2008, 04:45 PM)  Why to go then? Unless someone needs to have a trill and wants danger in life.
Are you saying you think America is dangerous for tourists? I think he or she meant it's dangerous for americans to travel to other countries. Which of course is completely untrue. International travel might have dropped but domestic tourism is always growing here. It's pretty cheap to travel anywhere within the states and driving across america is pretty common thing to do.
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| zijuzijazijana |
Dec 25 2008, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE(skylab @ Dec 24 2008, 08:54 AM)  QUOTE(starlagurl @ Dec 24 2008, 08:36 AM)  QUOTE(zijuzijazijana @ Dec 23 2008, 04:45 PM)  Why to go then? Unless someone needs to have a trill and wants danger in life.
Are you saying you think America is dangerous for tourists? I think he or she meant it's dangerous for americans to travel to other countries. Which of course is completely untrue. International travel might have dropped but domestic tourism is always growing here. It's pretty cheap to travel anywhere within the states and driving across america is pretty common thing to do. That's exactly what I ment travel outside of USA is dangerous for americans.I know what I'm talking about I'm outside of US and I'm going non-stop throught insults and danger for simple fact that I'm american and I'm not hiding it. As far as travel in USA it's not cheap at all,it may be a common thing to do but it's not cheap. For example in year 2000 I went across USA,from Clearwater in Florida to Las Vegas in Nevada and i stayed there for about a month with one companion.This trip cost us $10,000 if you call it cheap than you must have a lot of money but for an everage person it's very expensive.
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| skylab |
Dec 26 2008, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(zijuzijazijana @ Dec 25 2008, 04:50 AM)  That's exactly what I ment travel outside of USA is dangerous for americans.I know what I'm talking about I'm outside of US and I'm going non-stop throught insults and danger for simple fact that I'm american and I'm not hiding it. As far as travel in USA it's not cheap at all,it may be a common thing to do but it's not cheap. For example in year 2000 I went across USA,from Clearwater in Florida to Las Vegas in Nevada and i stayed there for about a month with one companion.This trip cost us $10,000 if you call it cheap than you must have a lot of money but for an everage person it's very expensive.
10,000 / 30... That's $333 DOLLARS a DAY. Did you stay in a hotel? If so.. THATS WHY. Stay in a hotel in Paris and you will find hotels are just as expensive as Vegas, NYC, Miami, etc. With 10,000 in a month, you can buy a house, a car, and pay all bills in the USA - so I'm not sure what kind of vacation you're on but that's a lot of money to be spending for only one month. Even if you were to split 10,000 between two people - 5,000 each... That's still crazy. I don't even spend that much in my own 1,000 square feet apartment next to NYC, when I had a car, all bills, food, and everything else. Also - add the fact that the USA has a HUGE economy. Although our dollar is going down, it's still strong compaired to the rest of the world. When our economy goes down, so does everyone else's because everyone depends on us the same way we are depending on everyone else. Do you know how dollars go up in value? When a dollar is strong - it means there's more jobs, more people buying things, and more people spending. So when you think about it if you lived IN the united states, it's not a lot of money for us to travel. Stop trying to scare people to stay away from our country. It's a beautiful country and you're giving it a bad name. YOU are the reason traveling has decreased because people have this false illusion of us.
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| zijuzijazijana |
Dec 27 2008, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE(skylab @ Dec 26 2008, 08:58 AM)  QUOTE(zijuzijazijana @ Dec 25 2008, 04:50 AM)  That's exactly what I ment travel outside of USA is dangerous for americans.I know what I'm talking about I'm outside of US and I'm going non-stop throught insults and danger for simple fact that I'm american and I'm not hiding it. As far as travel in USA it's not cheap at all,it may be a common thing to do but it's not cheap. For example in year 2000 I went across USA,from Clearwater in Florida to Las Vegas in Nevada and i stayed there for about a month with one companion.This trip cost us $10,000 if you call it cheap than you must have a lot of money but for an everage person it's very expensive.
10,000 / 30... That's $333 DOLLARS a DAY. Did you stay in a hotel? If so.. THATS WHY. Stay in a hotel in Paris and you will find hotels are just as expensive as Vegas, NYC, Miami, etc. With 10,000 in a month, you can buy a house, a car, and pay all bills in the USA - so I'm not sure what kind of vacation you're on but that's a lot of money to be spending for only one month. Even if you were to split 10,000 between two people - 5,000 each... That's still crazy. I don't even spend that much in my own 1,000 square feet apartment next to NYC, when I had a car, all bills, food, and everything else. Also - add the fact that the USA has a HUGE economy. Although our dollar is going down, it's still strong compaired to the rest of the world. When our economy goes down, so does everyone else's because everyone depends on us the same way we are depending on everyone else. Do you know how dollars go up in value? When a dollar is strong - it means there's more jobs, more people buying things, and more people spending. So when you think about it if you lived IN the united states, it's not a lot of money for us to travel. Stop trying to scare people to stay away from our country. It's a beautiful country and you're giving it a bad name. YOU are the reason traveling has decreased because people have this false illusion of us. What kind of nonsense you are talking about,I'm not even trying to scare anyone away from USA ,on contrary I'm saying to go to USA but with money not without it.I'm being realistic and all I'm saying here that travel in USA is not cheap,so what is wrong with my statement here?As far as terrorism you need to be realistic as well,so do you want me to lie to people and tell them that what happens to me doesn't happen?I'm living through it not you,I'm outside of USA now for over four years and I can speak from my own experience.Where have you been lately outside of USA and when?
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