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Not enough criminals in the Netherlands

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starlagurl	May 29 2009, 03:01 PM Post #1
Rolling Stone Group: Local Expert Posts: 14509 Joined: 5-November 07 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 103914	What?! Yeah, apparently they are closing down prisons because there aren't enough prisoners to keep them open. Any thoughts? Theories? Article from Brave New Traveler -------------------- My most recent blog: A trip to Toronto that turned into a trip to Niagara

jacquesl	May 29 2009, 03:40 PM Post #2
Journeyer Group: TP Staff Posts: 3475 Joined: 12-September 06 From: Ottawa Ontario, Canada. Member No.: 17335	Look no further...... in Ottawa we are having problems finding enough space in our jails..... to the point that criminals get their time waiting to go to trial counted as 2 for 1 because we have no more room to keep them! Plus, they only really serve 1/3 of their sentences because we need the space......off to the netherlands!!!!! Send them there.....Got to send this article to our city councillors! WOW!!!!! -------------------- support@travelpod.com Can't figure it out ...we can! Just ask us!

kathryn77	May 29 2009, 06:15 PM Post #3
Vagabond Group: Local Expert Posts: 1527 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Scotland Member No.: 30044	QUOTE(starlagurl @ May 29 2009, 09:01 PM) What?! Yeah, apparently they are closing down prisons because there aren't enough prisoners to keep them open. Any thoughts? Theories? I have just written a new blog - from the Netherlands, as I'm here right now! Guess what it features? - Yup, crime! I hope you've not encouraged crime in this country by advertising that there's not enough! (Only joking!) I am sure it's isolated, it is pretty crime-free here - I'm just laughing in irony that you posted this (and I'm now reading this after what I just wrote!) -------------------- Scotland & Ireland Dots round Europe & A Brazilian New Year The Big Trip! & Israel

starlagurl	Jun 1 2009, 12:14 PM Post #4
Rolling Stone Group: Local Expert Posts: 14509 Joined: 5-November 07 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 103914	Kathryn, was it this one? http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entri...36129/tpod.html -------------------- My most recent blog: A trip to Toronto that turned into a trip to Niagara

kathryn77	Jun 2 2009, 06:55 PM Post #5
Vagabond Group: Local Expert Posts: 1527 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Scotland Member No.: 30044	Yeah, that was the one. I think I was just unlucky! The Netherlands is a very safe country in my experience, and from having seen this, I'd say the cops swoop so fast, that it's why the crime rate is perhaps so low. Good on them! -------------------- Scotland & Ireland Dots round Europe & A Brazilian New Year The Big Trip! & Israel

sianeth	Jun 3 2009, 11:27 AM Post #6
Jet Setter Group: Local Expert Posts: 2643 Joined: 9-June 07 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 60100	Kathryn, the irony of this has amused me greatly

kathryn77	Jun 3 2009, 03:53 PM Post #7
Vagabond Group: Local Expert Posts: 1527 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Scotland Member No.: 30044	QUOTE(sianeth @ Jun 3 2009, 05:27 PM) Kathryn, the irony of this has amused me greatly I aim to please -------------------- Scotland & Ireland Dots round Europe & A Brazilian New Year The Big Trip! & Israel

melodee50	Jul 6 2009, 12:48 PM Post #8
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 27-December 07 Member No.: 119332 Nominate me as a Local Expert	Nederlanders are wise enough to choose their battles. They take a long look at which laws will improve the country, not the ones that will simply get them re-elected. The U.S. has decided to privatize the prison system so that it is now more than ever a money-making venture. It is not about punishment or improvements, it is about recidivism. Make the criminal come back and they keep making money. We have more criminals than anywhere on the planet, or close to. Did you know that when someone is paroled they MUST return to their own neighborhood but MUST NOT associate with any of their friends? A recipe for failure from the start. We criminalize pot but allow alcohol. We criminalize prostitution when it should be absolutely none of the governments business what I do with my body, let them stick to taxing my income. Victimless crimes shouldn't be.

wouterb	Nov 11 2009, 01:13 PM Post #9
Wanderer Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 9-November 09 Member No.: 495761 Nominate me as a Local Expert	Well, since we just rented out a big prison to Belgium...something must be changing. I would guess it is partly more "community services" punishments. And we have plenty of criminals...but they work for the bank and insurance companies it seems

kathryn77	Nov 11 2009, 04:01 PM Post #10
Vagabond Group: Local Expert Posts: 1527 Joined: 12-December 06 From: Scotland Member No.: 30044	QUOTE(wouterb @ Nov 11 2009, 06:13 PM) Well, since we just rented out a big prison to Belgium...something must be changing. I would guess it is partly more "community services" punishments. And we have plenty of criminals...but they work for the bank and insurance companies it seems -------------------- Scotland & Ireland Dots round Europe & A Brazilian New Year The Big Trip! & Israel

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