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[uncle_davros]

Personally, I don't like Dublin. I find it very expensive, in fact, more expensive than London. I am not the only person in the UK to say this. But if you are to go, I wouldn't pay to do a tour of the Guinness factory. It is a rip off. There is a door you can go in, see all the same stuff, and buy a beer on the floor below the Skybar, then you take your beer up to the Skybar. If you want to drink cheaply, Trinity college ar is the place to go, but my favourite part of Dublin was Kilmainham Jail. Full of history.

[siscri]

I'd agree. I found it very expensive, even more than London and more than Stockholm. That was 3 years ago and all my friends say it has gotten worse. I think it's losing its identity a bit, but I still love it.

The bar in Trinity is pretty good. You get some good gigs there.

If you're looking for traditional Irish music then I think Temple Bar area is the place to go. I don't know what specific bar because I never go. There's another bar too whose name slips my mind but I'll find out.

If you want modern Irish music, ie. normal bands, then there are alot of places. A few of my mates are in various decent bands. If you let me know when you're in Dublin I can let you know where to find them or someone they'd recommend.

[uncle_davros]

I haven't been to Dublin since Australia lost to Ireland at Lansdowne Road. Stood there in the rain and watched it. I think it was 4 years ago, and I have also heard it was mega expensive. We had a mate living in Clontarf, and we use to walk past Croke Park everyday, and thinf, why are they not playing rugby there. I do know why, but with the re-develpoment of Lansdowne Road, it is good to see the GAA finally making some good money out of the British Sports

Don't like Temple bar area. The park in the centre is pretty nice and I did manage to get blind at Major Toms everynight I was there. It was the only place in Dublin that was showing the Ashes

[siscri]

Yeh, I personally think it was a bit stubborn restricting the use of Croke Park.

We would never drink in Temple Bar, unless you have to go for someone's birthday or something. It's pretty rank.

Major Toms has made the offical change to 'Down Under', an Australian themed pub (kangaroo crossing signs, koala bears, Aussie bar men, etc.). Only drank there a few times...good place to meet Aussie girls.

[uncle_davros]

In 2002 it was called Major Toms Downunder bar - Picture It was good because we also got to see Kiwis v Poms and Frogs v Saffa. I was blind at the end of it. Two nights in there with no dinner. Just Guinness.

Temple bar is rank, but I have met loads of tourists who have seen nothing else.

St Stephens park is nice

To much water under the bridge about Croke Park. I also heard that they would not let concerts be played there

[siscri]

Sweet T-Shirt. It must have been Down Under at Major Toms for a while then. I remember back in the day it was just Major Toms. I always thought it was bad taste because I thought Major Tom was a real astronaut.

My problem with Stephens Green is that there aren't enough benches. That's what you Australians do well...you put benches F*#$ing everywhere.

Temple Bar is that classic holiday Catch 22: it's the most famous place so all the tourists go there, so all the locals stop going there and then it's not in any way a true representation of Dublin. Every city and every country has the same thing going on.

[uncle_davros]

Temple Bar is that classic holiday Catch 22: it's the most famous place so all the tourists go there, so all the locals stop going there and then it's not in any way a true representation of Dublin. Every city and every country has the same thing going on.

I agree. Covent Garden. Las Ramblas. Circular Quay. Spanish Steps

There are loads of these places. Loads

[wakingdream]

I'd agree. I found it very expensive, even more than London and more than Stockholm. That was 3 years ago and all my friends say it has gotten worse. I think it's losing its identity a bit, but I still love it.

The bar in Trinity is pretty good. You get some good gigs there.

If you're looking for traditional Irish music then I think Temple Bar area is the place to go. I don't know what specific bar because I never go. There's another bar too whose name slips my mind but I'll find out.

If you want modern Irish music, ie. normal bands, then there are alot of places. A few of my mates are in various decent bands. If you let me know when you're in Dublin I can let you know where to find them or someone they'd recommend.

No offense whatsoever to traditional Irish music, but I'm not a very big fan. There are loads of Irish pubs here and honestly, it wouldn't be anything new. I am howvere, into modern music, and especially the live variety.
Benches are good for when you are blind, as Anti says, and need alittle rest on your way to wherever. I figure that's why they were invented!
Temple bar sounds ok, but if there's somewhere alittle more low-key, yet cool as well, I'd rather that.
Major Tom's Down Under sounds good. Will have to have some pints there. I think I will likely be exhausted after two days in Belfast as we have a birthday to celebrate and in my books a birthday is worth two days celebration. The night b4 b/c you turn at midnight, and a continuation the next day.
I'm really looking forward to the countryside. By this time I think I will need a bit of relaxation. So, any good landmarks outside the cities would be useful to know. I think this part of the trip will be road-trippy. Car, tunes, and the open road.

[uncle_davros]

Major Toms - Hole. Only went there because they played rugby and had the ashes on. It was so good to see Nasser Hussain on TV, telling the reporters, you don't need to tell me what I did was wrong, as Hayden went on to get centuries in both innings. The whole crowd cheering the French on over South Africa, as the majority of the crowd were Aussies, what else was expected. Wouldn't go back though.

Actually, Siscri, I would really like to thank you for this conversation last night. Sometimes you need something to bring you back from the abyss, and this certainly helped me. A proper post about a place. Discussing a city, the good/bad points of it

[siscri]

No offense whatsoever to traditional Irish music, but I'm not a very big fan.

I'm really looking forward to the countryside. By this time I think I will need a bit of relaxation. So, any good landmarks outside the cities would be useful to know. I think this part of the trip will be road-trippy. Car, tunes, and the open road.

No offense taken whatsoever. I only enjoy Irish music when I'm not in Ireland.

Sounds like your best bet is to just drive through the country and stop at some random pubs in the middle of nowhere. Foreigners always tell me how great that is and how everyone in them are so Irish and they get treated like celebrities.

Actually, Siscri, I would really like to thank you for this conversation last night. Sometimes you need something to bring you back from the abyss, and this certainly helped me. A proper post about a place. Discussing a city, the good/bad points of it

No problem. I am actually capable of proper conversations. I'm stranded out here in Spain and it sucks...sometimes when I least expect it these forums put me in a good mood.

[uncle_davros]

Amazingly, so am I, and over the time, I have driftes off course a lot, and it is now time to come back and do some proper work. Not crap