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ScottWoz
post Nov 5 2008, 11:13 AM
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For what? What am I getting for my money?


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post Nov 5 2008, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(ScottWoz @ Nov 5 2008, 11:13 AM) *

For what? What am I getting for my money?


LOL!! exactly! The dealer doesn't make the odds so I never understood the reason behind tipping in a casino.

I could never do that job. Looking everyone throwing away thousands in a single card and yet there I am making minimum wage. The amount some spend would take years to earn as a dealer.


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post Nov 5 2008, 11:52 AM
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You definitely DO NOT make minimum wage as a casino dealer, not in Canada anyway.

One of my good friends dealt black jack, it was a great wage, benefits etc. etc.


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post Nov 5 2008, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(skylab @ Nov 5 2008, 04:10 PM) *

How does everyone feel about tipping in a Casino?


I don't like tipping anywhere - employers should be paying wages.


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post Nov 5 2008, 04:31 PM
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So, new question... is it worse to leave no tip, or a really really small insulting tip? Cause if I have coppers then its a good way to get rid of them, but apparently thats cheeky!
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post Nov 5 2008, 04:37 PM
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When I was a waitress, I never thought it was mean to leave a small tip, but I think I'm in the minority.


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post Nov 6 2008, 06:51 AM
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What about Taxi drivers, hair dressers, gas station attendants, fast food workers baristas grocery clerks, retail workers and oh, I don't know, every other service industry slave working for too little. Why single out wait staff for this special bounty. If you don't tip everybody, it seems silly to feel obligated to make all your societally imposed donations to this one sub group.


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post Nov 6 2008, 11:10 AM
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Excellent point. Just pay people properly for doing the work they do. Simple.


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post Nov 6 2008, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(findingnine @ Nov 6 2008, 06:51 AM) *

What about Taxi drivers, hair dressers, gas station attendants, fast food workers baristas grocery clerks, retail workers and oh, I don't know, every other service industry slave working for too little. Why single out wait staff for this special bounty. If you don't tip everybody, it seems silly to feel obligated to make all your societally imposed donations to this one sub group.


Because waitresses don't even make minimum wage. At least these people make minimum wage.


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post Nov 6 2008, 01:40 PM
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Waiters at bars and restaurants on South Beach, Miami, can make up to US$ 500.00 a day. Is it any more work to bring a $ 5.00 hamburger and fries to the table at the local diner or a $ 50.00 wine-poached salmon with black truffles? It's not as if the waiter is preparing the food or paying the rent. It just a job of carrying a plate from the kitchen to the table. What's the big deal? So based on a 15% tip, why should Joe at the diner earn $ 0.75 and Marcel at the swanky French restaurant earn $ 7.50 for the same task?

What annoys me most is when you are expected to include the cost of wine in the tip. For the life of me I can't see increasing a tip for more expensive wine. It's just a bottle, damn it!

The whole tipping thing is a can of worms. Restaurants should be obliged to pay at least minimum wage to all their employees, and the tipping thing should just pass away like a bad dream.


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post Nov 6 2008, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(mmbcross @ Nov 6 2008, 01:40 PM) *

Waiters at bars and restaurants on South Beach, Miami, can make up to US$ 500.00 a day.


Toward the end of March - $500 is a slow day in South Beach...


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QUOTE(ScottWoz @ Nov 5 2008, 11:13 AM) *

For what? What am I getting for my money?


Duh, you're getting it, aren't you? laugh.gif


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post Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM
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Yeah, well I'm convinced. This whole 10 -20% thing is OUT the window. (the word defenestrate comes to mind from threads gone by)

From now on a fair amount reflective of service and not the bottom line. Automatic tips? Automatic see ya later. AND, Don't kid yourself, most wait staff is getting Atleast minimum wage. Think you might be dining where there is an exception? Ask, and if so, maybe it would be wise to dine elsewhere.


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post Nov 7 2008, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(findingnine @ Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM) *

Yeah, well I'm convinced. This whole 10 -20% thing is OUT the window. (the word defenestrate comes to mind from threads gone by)

From now on a fair amount reflective of service and not the bottom line. Automatic tips? Automatic see ya later. AND, Don't kid yourself, most wait staff is getting Atleast minimum wage. Think you might be dining where there is an exception? Ask, and if so, maybe it would be wise to dine elsewhere.


Ok maybe in other countries it's ok not to tip but its a culture in america. It's extremely disrespectful not to tip. I say if the service is bad, speak to the manager. 99% of the time its not even the persons fault your food was bad or came late. A small tip is better then no tip.


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post Nov 7 2008, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(findingnine @ Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM) *

Don't kid yourself, most wait staff is getting Atleast minimum wage. Think you might be dining where there is an exception? Ask, and if so, maybe it would be wise to dine elsewhere.


Ummmmmm, I had two waitress jobs in Niagara Falls and they were both $5.50/hour. One of them involved me actually washing dishes too.


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Hey Skylab. The restaurant owners have made it a culture in America. They shame you into tipping, wheras they are not ashamed to pay slave labour wages. They keep the loot and you pay the waiter.


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post Nov 7 2008, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(mmbcross @ Nov 7 2008, 01:07 PM) *

Hey Skylab. The restaurant owners have made it a culture in America. They shame you into tipping, wheras they are not ashamed to pay slave labour wages. They keep the loot and you pay the waiter.


Of course yeah. We would need the entire country to stop tipping and the resturant owners to pay the workers more money.

But - As a results to highering the pay to employee's.. Our menu prices might also go up. Paying $10 for a hamburger and fries at a diner is already getting a little crazy here. Most of the workers love getting paid with tips anyway because it provides them a goal that they know they did a good job when they get a higher tip and its not taxed. They get the money the same exact day.


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This has been discussed before, and btw, check out the digital pixellation on the back of Mr. Blue's jacket at the beginning--it would seem there is evidence of a civilization on his suit jacket!

Warning: Strong and offensive language and probably NSFW:

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QUOTE(starlagurl @ Nov 7 2008, 12:01 PM) *

QUOTE(findingnine @ Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM) *

Don't kid yourself, most wait staff is getting Atleast minimum wage. Think you might be dining where there is an exception? Ask, and if so, maybe it would be wise to dine elsewhere.


Ummmmmm, I had two waitress jobs in Niagara Falls and they were both $5.50/hour. One of them involved me actually washing dishes too.

What's min wage in Ont? You were getting a legal wage by Alberta standards.


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