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mmbcross
post Sep 24 2008, 10:19 PM
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Bruni readers to New York: Take it from tourists, end tipping
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Sep 23, 2008

Frank Bruni riled his commenters on Diner's Journal yesterday when he called for solutions to the tourist tipping conundrum: What can a restaurant do when foreign tourists don't (or under) tip? Bruni holds back his own opinion ("I’m not going to try to convince management of anything"). But while foreign travelers aren't going away, an overwhelming number of readers wants to rid America of tipping. Confrontation, printed instructions, and included service charges also had votes. Below, some choice comments:

• "Having confronted a group of foul-mouthed Englishmen at a bar last month over their paltry $1 tip on $30 of drinks, I think it’s safe to say that nearly all European tourists do in fact know that tipping is customary and expected in this country."

• "Actually tipping is another one of those nasty American habits that justifies slave labor wages ... Although we as an American family tip ... we only go to places that are owned by our friends or to places that do not expect a tip, 99% of the time."

• "If you have a good, professional staff … I think it is entirely appropriate for the management to confront lousy tippers."

• "I see no reason to have to leave a $40 tip on a $200 meal when the service has been mediocre at best, and the majority of the tab is from getting an already-marked-up bottle of wine."

• "Maybe it’s about time to just add 15% to the bill as a service charge, as they do throughout most of Europe."

• "One does not tip in China — and the service is fine."

• "Confront your Boss to pay you real wages, stop disturbing your customers, who have already left legal tips, and get a real job!"

• "As a server, I’ve given up on the niceties and simply add it onto the check (post-tax) and inform the diner that the gratuity has been added. After all, I’m there for the money, not to make friends."

What do you think about tipping?


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post Sep 24 2008, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(mmbcross @ Sep 24 2008, 11:19 PM) *
• "Confront your Boss to pay you real wages

Sound advice in any industry


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mmbcross   Tipping   Sep 24 2008, 10:19 PM
ScottWoz   It's a ridiculous practice, and I agree with m...   Sep 24 2008, 11:58 PM
travelmonster   I too think it's a ridiculous practice. Employ...   Sep 25 2008, 02:09 AM
rbisset   If I go out to a restaurant in the UK I pretty muc...   Sep 25 2008, 05:03 AM
barsie   I don't believe in tipping at all- not as an e...   Sep 25 2008, 07:03 AM
starlagurl   • "Maybe it’s about time to jus...   Sep 25 2008, 09:16 AM
travelmonster   [quote name='mmbcross' post='73816' date='Sep 24 ...   Sep 25 2008, 01:12 PM
starlagurl   Yeah, tongue in cheek a little. But really, they s...   Sep 25 2008, 01:13 PM
kitkatgo   Hmmm...interesting topic. I tip an appropriate amo...   Sep 25 2008, 01:23 PM
mmbcross   Goodness, I've opened a Pandora's Box here...   Sep 25 2008, 02:31 PM
starlagurl   Hmmm, yeah that's true, I was just thinking ab...   Sep 25 2008, 02:50 PM
darrenstravels   I tip people. I don't like doing it though. ...   Oct 26 2008, 09:19 PM
skylab   In NYC, it's always 15%-20%. Some resturants I...   Oct 27 2008, 07:10 AM
starlagurl   Oooh, I like that idea of examples...which restaur...   Oct 27 2008, 12:13 PM
mmbcross   Not necessarily a fancy restaurant, just an intell...   Oct 27 2008, 12:28 PM
wakingdream   There was another awesome thread on this topic a...   Oct 27 2008, 12:36 PM
starlagurl   I'm not sure about that one. I've only wor...   Oct 29 2008, 09:18 AM
findingnine   Not at all. I've tipped atleast $40 on a ...   Oct 30 2008, 07:18 PM
starlagurl   That's the point. At a fancy restaurant, you s...   Oct 31 2008, 08:32 AM
sianeth   I went to this restaurant the other night, and the...   Oct 31 2008, 12:00 PM
skylab   Or in same cases like a bar. Everyone splits the t...   Oct 31 2008, 12:23 PM
starlagurl   No kidding, Sian! I thought that was the case ...   Oct 31 2008, 01:41 PM
sianeth   No kidding, Sian! I thought that was the case...   Nov 1 2008, 10:39 AM
starlagurl   No kidding, Sian! I thought that was the cas...   Nov 3 2008, 10:44 AM
ScottWoz   Amen..   Nov 2 2008, 11:06 PM
barsie   I'm now running a bar- we do the works on serv...   Nov 3 2008, 01:17 PM
starlagurl   That's in England. Is it usual that people tip...   Nov 3 2008, 03:20 PM
travelmonster   A number of people seem to.   Nov 4 2008, 05:33 AM
barsie   People do tip in England- main things a meal or a ...   Nov 4 2008, 09:34 AM
skylab   In a NYC club.. You can make hundreds of dollars i...   Nov 4 2008, 09:47 AM
starlagurl   Yeah, it's kind of crazy. All they do is pour ...   Nov 4 2008, 11:37 AM
skylab   Yeah, it's kind of crazy. All they do is pour...   Nov 5 2008, 09:17 AM
ScottWoz   They might do in England but it's for VERY dif...   Nov 5 2008, 09:06 AM
ScottWoz   Mate really, is that the mentality? Still?   Nov 5 2008, 09:33 AM
skylab   Mate, is that really the mentality? Unfortunate...   Nov 5 2008, 09:43 AM
skylab   lol one last note.. i dont have that mentality. i...   Nov 5 2008, 09:46 AM
ScottWoz   I know you don't have that mentality, which is...   Nov 5 2008, 10:01 AM
starlagurl   I used to get tips, even at Burger King because I ...   Nov 5 2008, 11:06 AM
skylab   How does everyone feel about tipping in a Casino?   Nov 5 2008, 11:10 AM
ScottWoz   For what? What am I getting for my money?   Nov 5 2008, 11:13 AM
skylab   For what? What am I getting for my money? LOL...   Nov 5 2008, 11:37 AM
wakingdream   For what? What am I getting for my money? Duh,...   Nov 6 2008, 02:50 PM
starlagurl   You definitely DO NOT make minimum wage as a casin...   Nov 5 2008, 11:52 AM
travelmonster   How does everyone feel about tipping in a Casino?...   Nov 5 2008, 01:02 PM
sianeth   So, new question... is it worse to leave no tip, o...   Nov 5 2008, 04:31 PM
starlagurl   When I was a waitress, I never thought it was mean...   Nov 5 2008, 04:37 PM
findingnine   What about Taxi drivers, hair dressers, gas statio...   Nov 6 2008, 06:51 AM
starlagurl   What about Taxi drivers, hair dressers, gas stati...   Nov 6 2008, 11:11 AM
ScottWoz   Excellent point. Just pay people properly for doi...   Nov 6 2008, 11:10 AM
mmbcross   Waiters at bars and restaurants on South Beach, Mi...   Nov 6 2008, 01:40 PM
skylab   Waiters at bars and restaurants on South Beach, M...   Nov 6 2008, 02:23 PM
findingnine   Yeah, well I'm convinced. This whole 10 -20% t...   Nov 6 2008, 07:55 PM
skylab   Yeah, well I'm convinced. This whole 10 -20% ...   Nov 7 2008, 08:02 AM
starlagurl   Don't kid yourself, most wait staff is gettin...   Nov 7 2008, 11:01 AM
findingnine   [quote name='findingnine' post='78888' date='Nov ...   Nov 7 2008, 08:45 PM
mmbcross   Hey Skylab. The restaurant owners have made it a c...   Nov 7 2008, 01:07 PM
skylab   Hey Skylab. The restaurant owners have made it a ...   Nov 7 2008, 02:41 PM
lisah   Hey Skylab. The restaurant owners have made it a...   Nov 30 2008, 05:27 PM
bloomer   This has been discussed before, and btw, check out...   Nov 7 2008, 02:53 PM
starlagurl   Haaaaaaaaaahahaha I love that scene.   Nov 7 2008, 02:56 PM
starlagurl   At the time, I believe it was $7.50.   Nov 10 2008, 09:55 AM
wakingdream   Yeah but it finally went up after a loooong time. ...   Nov 10 2008, 10:18 AM
starlagurl   What is the normal wage for waitresses/bartenders ...   Nov 10 2008, 10:20 AM
wakingdream   I think it's something like $7.60. Beg...   Nov 10 2008, 10:25 AM
findingnine   Hmm, guess it has been going up. Who knew.   Nov 10 2008, 10:27 AM
starlagurl   Hahaha, it's kind of a big deal over here.   Nov 10 2008, 10:28 AM
mmbcross   Here's what Wikipedia has to say about tipping...   Nov 10 2008, 11:16 AM
starlagurl   Hahaha, look we had this whole discussion when it ...   Nov 10 2008, 11:18 AM
bloomer   "Tip Ping" is not a city in China. .   Nov 10 2008, 11:29 AM
skylab   I was 17. I went to Pizzeria Uno. I had the worst ...   Nov 10 2008, 12:49 PM
starlagurl   I didn't tip at the bar last night. They didn...   Nov 10 2008, 02:05 PM
lisah   I'm a bit late on this post so don't want ...   Nov 30 2008, 05:43 PM
bangkokrandy   Restaurant owners, primarily in America, have succ...   Dec 1 2008, 10:09 AM
starlagurl   Yep, I totally agree with you Randy, it's like...   Dec 1 2008, 12:11 PM
cdn-trvl_writer   I'll add a note on tipping too. Though I'v...   Dec 3 2008, 06:16 PM
starlagurl   To add even more fuel to the fire: I found a blog ...   Dec 19 2008, 03:35 PM
travelmonster   Not a chance!!   Dec 19 2008, 03:40 PM
ScottWoz   Never In A Million Years   Dec 20 2008, 02:45 AM
cheli   When I'm traveling I tend to follow the custom...   Dec 20 2008, 09:23 AM
starlagurl   Hehehe, seriously, at Burger King, I got tips all ...   Dec 22 2008, 08:25 AM
wakingdream   Hmm, I found this pretty interesting. A bit of the...   Dec 22 2008, 10:58 AM
starlagurl   "Except in Quebec"   Dec 22 2008, 12:11 PM
skylab   "Except in Quebec" lol!!!   Dec 23 2008, 08:22 AM


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